High School Building Committee (HSBC) Meeting #76 Minutes
Thursday, June 18, 2009
Wayland Town Building
School Committee Conference Room
Attendees
HSBC members:
Lea Anderson, Josh Bekenstein. Dianne Bladon,
Jim Howard, Fred Knight, Mary Lentz, Cindy Lombardo
Absent: Brian
Chase, David Lash, Joe Lewin, Eric Sheffels, Jennifer Steel
HMFH Team:
Steve Millington
KVA Team: David Saindon, Frank Vanzler
Ex Officio members: Gary Burton, Louis Jurist, John
Moynihan, Pat Tutwiler
Call to order – HSBC Chairman, Lea Anderson, called the
HSBC meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
Presentation on Option Selection and
Extended Public Comment - Lea made a short presentation on the
selected option and opened up the floor for an extended comment period from the
public. Comments are at the end of
the minutes.
General Project Update -
David Saindon, Project Manager, reviewed the
activity of the past two weeks:
- Wayland project team members are
continuing to meet weekly with MSBA.
- Steve Millington brought project
consultants to the field house to develop a cost model estimate for
renovation.
- Mike DePietro
and Joy Buhler from Wayland and David Saindon
and Michele from KVA were trained on June 12th by MSBA on their
pro pay system.
- Feasibility Study Agreement has been
received from MSBA (sent to Fred Turkington). The FSA is being executed by the
School Committee under the advisement of Town Counsel.
- A second meeting with Brian Monahan
of Conservation was held on June 9th with HMFH, KVA, civil
engineers, landscape designer, and Jennifer Steel to understand
expectations for site protection.
- Steve is continuing to meet with
administrators and high school department heads on the ed spec.
- Steve has engaged all consulting
engineers: landscape
architects (looking at elevations, parking, tree conservation); hazardous
materials (hazmat); geo-tech (phase 1 environmental history, test pits and
borings, soil conditions); mechanical (energy, cooling and heating); civil
engineer (ConCom filings).
- Steve has started analysis on energy
costs with 3-D models of both buildings. The mechanical engineerÕs first impression is that cost
of mechanical equipment is cost neutral between one and two building
approach. A single building
might have a larger cooling load.
A two-building design has day-lighting advantage. A single building needs a larger
floor plate. A
two–building scheme is more flexible, might not need spray-on fire
protection.
- David and Steve indicated that the
two building scheme provides better design flexibility during the
schematic design phase, allowing the ability to add additional square
footage if the grossing factor proves to be lower than 1.5.
Update on June 8th meeting
with MSBA - David reported that Gary Burton, Lea
Anderson, Steve Millington, Rep. Tom Conroy, and he met with John Jumpe , Mary Pichetti, Katie DeCristofaro, Carl Brown, and Brian McLaughlin of
MSBA. David thought that there was
a significant change from the positive discussion on June 1. The MSBA is having difficulty responding
to WaylandÕs ed spec in areas that do not correspond to their model. Wayland has provided back-up data on
science, art and music, and commons as requested. MSBA is looking for trade-offs in other areas to get closer
to the MSBA square footage.
David reported
that in a subsequent discussion with John Jumpe he
learned that MSBA has hired an independent cost estimator to validate our cost
estimates. The estimator is
expected to report back to MSBA this week (or next?). In the meantime, we have been told not to expect any
response on the ed spec. David
thinks that the ed spec discussion might go in the direction of taking 20,000 s.f. (physical education) off the MSBA total of 171,000 s.f. and letting Wayland fit its program (excluding the
field house) in 151,000 s.f.
Discussion followed:
- How can MSBA check costs without a
final ed spec? Ans. This is a
comparative exercise to make sure cost comparison between the one and two building approach
was fair. It is not a budget.
- Steve thinks that the ed spec will
not be final until close to the end of schematic design.
- Approval from MSBA at its July 29th
board meeting allows Wayland to proceed with an approach. The ed spec will continue to
evolve.
- As long as we can do athletics at a
lower cost than 20,000 s.f. of new space, our
athletics plans should be acceptable to MSBA.
- Allow flexibility to Òlop offÓ
spaces.
- How is it fair that model schools
have much larger spaces? Not
every community has a site that can accommodate a model school. MSBA thinks model schools will
save money. That is probably
true for elementary schools, but high schools have very different programs
from each other and need modification.
Stop Gap Update – David presented a
first pass Òstop-gapÓ analysis.
Stop-gap was a term used during the 2004 study to define a project to
bring the buildings up to all health, safety, accessibility, and building
codes, and add minimal space to accommodate the enrollment. DavidÕs assumptions in this updated
study are that no classrooms would be reconfigured or enlarged and that three classrooms
would be added. Science labs would
be replaced. The recommendations
of the Futures Team would not be incorporated. The current analysis does not include the field house or
waste water treatment plant yet.
These will be added as data becomes available. The issue of reimbursement on a stop-gap project is not
clear yet. The question will be
asked of MSBA.
Field House Scope/Estimate Update – Steve
reported that he met with his estimator and MEP (mechanical, electrical,
plumbing) engineers to look at the Field
House. The bottom line cost
model/conceptual estimate for renovating the Field House is $130/square foot
for a total project cost of $5.3 million.
The renovation includes a new roof with greatly enhanced insulation, new
doors, skylights, rebuilt locker rooms, a real elevator, scoreboard, new
electric service, hazmat removal, etc.
In response to a question about the increase in cost since the 2004
study, it was pointed out that there were no locker rooms planned in the
renovated Field House last time and that we are dealing with five additional
years of escalation. We will look
at this more closely. The
privately funded renovations done this past year will be protected. It was pointed out that this estimate
if very conceptual at this point and all scope will need to be further defined
and cost-estimated.
Ed Spec – Steve reported that he has been working
with Gary, Pat, and Allyson to see if there are ways to reduce the square
footage of the ed spec to fit within the MSBA bottom line number. He is very frustrated with the lack of
feedback from MSBA on the 5,000 to 6,000 gross square footage overage. He does not want to have to revise
design down the road. He has
backed out 20,000 s.f. from the 171,000 s.f. total and is working to fit all the new design in
151,000 s.f.
Working with the administration, the program reductions being suggested
are to eliminate the third art room and green house. Both spaces are at the edge of the building and can be added
back. Steve explained that some of
the other space can be multi-purpose and pick up some of the program. For example, the graphics/multi-media
lab and fabrications (formerly called robotics) can serve art as well. It should be designed into a ÒcentralÓ
location so that the space can be multi-purpose in the future.
A spirited
discussion ensued:
- What is the effect on the
program? Gary Burton
responded that they made the least painful cuts. He would like to see Wayland push for the program in
the larger ed spec and look at this new effort as a Òplan BÓ in case we
have to reduce more.
- Why would we ask the town to pay
more when we can show that compromises were made to fit within the MSBA
total?
- Wellesley crammed more into their
project with an efficient net to gross design. Steve responded that if efficiencies can be made, we
can put more in. This will be
determined as design progresses.
- Frank Vanzler
said that he always wants to challenge owners to look at ways of saving
space.
- Eric was right. It all comes down to the bottom
line.
- Say Òthank youÓ to Steve.
- It is important for Wayland to have
control over its program and make these decisions.
- What about music space? Ensemble room might not be big
enough. Pat responded that he
thinks it is okay. He said
that they tried to protect what came out of the Futures Team.
- How can the Art and Music programs
be satisfied if the ed spec is lower than the current space? We need a crisp explanation of how
elements of the program will be satisfied.
- Do we have flexibility to add space
back on some of the smaller cuts as we speak with department heads and
staff? Ans. Yes.
- How does MSBA handle the television
studio? Steve said that MSBA
will approve space that is part of the high school program and will not
fund space for community use.
- It has been shown that 100 students
participate in the WayCam program. Many other schools have a
television studio.
- Is 1200 s.f.
enough space for the ed spec and WayCam? (Ken Isaacson from WayCam responded that it is sufficient.)
- Does it make sense to have a
separate article for WayCam funded at 100% by
the town?
- The current ed spec accommodates the
program. It is technology
based and is compatible with the Futures Team. The School Committee and WayCam
will have to come to agreement on how to handle future space needs should
the high school want to use the space for another purpose. It is high school owned space.
- Steve said that the television
studio could be on an outside wall for separate access.
Schedule Update – David presented a
detailed updated schedule that includes :
- 6/22/09 – Land Use Committee
to meet with HMFH, KVA
- 6/29/09 – Feasibility Study
Packet to be submitted to MSBA
- 7/2/09 – Next HSBC meeting
- 7/29/09 – MSBA Board Meeting
to vote on Wayland preferred alternative
- 8/31/09 – Wayland submits
schematics package to MSBA
- 9/30/09 – MSBA Board votes on
Wayland project scope and budget
- 11/?/09 – Town Election and
Special Town Meeting
Other action items
Parking - David requested information on school
parking needs during construction so that planning can begin on temporary
parking. He asked for the
administration to find a site to park buses off the high school property during
construction. Steve said that the
official occupancy number for the Field House is 1,875 which results in 625
parking spaces required by code.
Fact Sheets – The group agreed that
the updated Fact Sheet on option selection was close to being ready to
post. Dianne will make a few more
changes and then post it to the web site.
As we reach other milestones, more of these summary documents will be
developed and handed out at information sessions.
Motion: A motion was made
by Cindy Lombardo and seconded by Josh Bekenstein to
approve the minutes to HSBC meeting #75 held on June 4, 2009.
Vote: The motion was approved unanimously – 7 in favor; 0 opposed.
Adjournment – The HSBC adjourned at 10:07 p.m.
Next meeting – Thursday, July 2 at 7:30 pm in the
School Committee conference room
Observers:
Malcolm Astley, Tom Donaldson, Mary Beth
Finch, Barb Fletcher, Lori Frieling, Cecily Kiefer,
Ken Isaacson, Cynthia Lavenson, Linda Segal, Tom
Sciacca, Karen Vachon, Phil Whaley
Comments from the public:
- Please try to move drainage to the
north of the site. Anything
that winds up in the brook, ends up in the wells.
- Consider retaining and leaving some
remnant of the original buildings as a museum. (Field House will be
retained, as well as student murals, if possible.)
- This is a much better project than
the one proposed five years ago.
- The School Committee should present
an overall budget that takes into account this project.
- At the last meeting the HSBC
discussed studying long term maintenance costs. I look forward to this.
- Could we save the Math/English
building for future community use?
- Where will the waste water treatment
plant go? (Ans. Near the M/E building or behind the Field House.)
- Consider pumping it up to the
Greenways property. Steve Kalichman might suggest this.
- Have you considered using Raytheon
building? (Ans. yes, we
looked at it in 2004 both as a potential high school and also as a rental
during construction. Due to
the use restrictions relative to digging and having children on site, due
to contamination, we did not pursue it. We have also since learned that MSBA will not reimburse
for land cost.)
- Owners are trying to renegotiate terms
relating to restrictions.
- When will townspeople know financial
viability relative to other projects?
- Continuity with old buildings is
valuable. (We will
consider saving murals and student generated projects.)
- Regarding the field house
renovation, are soft costs in this yet? Has it been determined that renovating the field house
is less expensive than building new athletics space? (We are beyond comparing options. We have looked at the costs and
think that this plan has a cost advantage and offers less risk for
Wayland. There is still a
space held for a future gym should the community decide to fund it at some
point.)
- Consider adding a timeline to the
Fact Sheet.
- Permeable paving should be
considered.
- Robotics were a fad. It is nice to see that we are
thinking about flexibility and multi-purpose in that space by calling it
ÒfabricationsÓ.
- It might be useful for Steve to meet
with the Energy Taskforce in town.
John Moynihan is the staff member on that task force.
- Please do not lose site of the fact that
we are building for 50 years.
Do not be Òpenny-wise and pound-foolish when making these cuts.