High School Building Committee (HSBC) Meeting #46 Minutes

Thursday, February 1, 2007

Wayland High School

Science Building S-2

 

Attendees

HSBC members:  Lea Anderson, Josh Bekenstein, Dianne Bladon, Steve Breit, Brian Chase, Fred Knight, David Lash, Mary Lentz, Joe Lewin, Cindy Lombardo, Eric Sheffels, Jennifer Steel, Karen Talentino

Absent: Jim Howard, Steve Tise

Ex Officio members: Gary Burton, Bob Gordon

 

Call to order – HSBC Chairman, Lea Anderson, called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.

 

Review of Enrollment Projections – Wayland School Committee member Jeff Dieffenbach presented an update on enrollment projections.  He explained that enrollment is driven at the macro level by national, regional, and state trends.   The micro level factors are town population, births, housing turnover, new construction, and public funding.

 

The current school population is around 3,000.  Professional projections of recent years range from 2,000 to 4,000 students (based on a build-out potential) in 10 to 15 years.

 

Jeff said that the K-12 cohort survival (children already in the system) is highly predictable.  Kindergarten projections are not so predictable.  He presented three cases:

            Low - based on a 5-year birth average and 5-year K to birth average

            Medium – based on a 10 year birth average and 15-year K to birth average

            High – based on a 20-year birth average and 20-year K to birth average

 

The resulting high school enrollment projection ranges from a high of 1100 to a low of 850 by the year 2025 for the high and medium cases.  The low case was not useful as it projects 0 students by 2025.  It is based on too short a history.

 

Jeff concluded that we “simply don’t know”.  The trend appears to be more down than up, but there are too many volatile factors such as housing turnover, Town Center, etc. to be sure.

 

Comments were:

            - Families move to Wayland when their oldest child is 4 years old.

            - Older people move out and make room for younger families.

- The Wayland enrollment tracks the macro trends of boom and boomlet.  Highs and lows will get less extreme.

- Best predictor is national trend.  No reason to think Wayland is going to be different.

- Jeff’s report suggests that we should build for 850-900 with a potential maximum of 1100.

- This is different from what we projected last time (1000 – 1200).

- State will be formulaic.  There will not be a lot of debate.

- We hope the State will not be unreasonable.  They are trying to avoid schools being twice as big as they need to be.

- Use Jeff’s report when talking to the state.

- We will present a range, not one number.

- Build core facilities for higher number, classrooms for lower number.  It is cheaper to add classrooms later than to add core space.

 

Discussion of Town Meeting Article – Lea reported that Sam Peper of the Finance Committee requested specifics on the $300,000 article to keep the WHS project moving forward.  Sam requested that the HSBC explain the expenditure in relation to the MSBA process.  The Finance Committee has received capital requests far in excess of what they think is prudent to approve.  The HSBC was asked to discuss delaying the request until next Fall or to consider bifurcating the request into $75,000 this Spring and the balance of $225,000 next Fall.

 

The HSBC had differing opinions about the state process and what constituted “an invitation” to apply.  Some thought it was immediately after the SOI is accepted, possibly as early as July 2007.  Others thought it would not happen until after the Pre-study Review Meeting, possibly as early as late Fall 2007.  There was general consensus that there are probably two decision points, not just one.

 

Discussion followed:

            - The State seems to be defining the process as they go.

- $75,000 should be enough to get through the first stages of the application process from July through November, though some thought more might be needed before November.

- We should give the Fincom latitude to defer the bulk of the funds.

- It is possible that the $225,000 for the Feasibility Study stage of the state process will not be spent for a long time.  The article was designed to tie this spending to the MSBA choosing Wayland to apply.

-  What is the reason for deferral?  Is it budget impact or for political reasons?

- Two debt exclusions double the risk of failure.

 

Lea offered to write a response to Sam Peper saying that the HSBC strongly recommends that the town be allowed to consider the WSC’s request for $300,000 this April to be able to take advantage of state funding at the earliest possible time.  She will detail the expenditures in relation to the state process.

 

Discussion of Project Scope – Lea asked the group to consider a high level discussion about possible scope reductions and design scenarios.

 

Eric Sheffels expressed the importance of having continuity around design discussions where we start, analyze, progress, and decide.  He recommended having this discussion as part of the Feasibility Study when we have the MSBA and professional help.  He reminded the group that we don’t want to do it twice.  Much of that discussion will revolve around cost, which requires professional help.

 

This led to a discussion about private fundraising:

- Elements removed from the project might be ripe for private funding.

            - Rehabilitation of the Field House is a possible candidate for private funding.

            - Can the HSBC get its head around removing the gym and auditorium from the project?

            - Our charge tells us we have to come up with different price points.

- We should ask the school administration to take a first crack at scope reductions based on educational priorities.

            - We should look at functionality first.

            - Trade-offs will have to be discussed, such as big box approach vs. campus.

- It is atypical for Massachusetts’ schools to raise significant money privately.  People are used to taxes paying for public education.  Hospitals or universities are very different.  There is a history to privately funding these.

- Public schools should be funded publicly.  I have a philosophical problem with private funding for the town’s schools.

- Other schools have formed Alumnae Associations, but this is a much longer-term effort to set up an endowment.

- Compared to Brookline, if Wayland were to raise the same relative amount, it would be less than $1 million.

- Based on the turf field experience, it will be very difficult to raise nearly enough to make a difference.  The appeal has to be broad based.

- The WPSF raises about $150k a year.  This takes a lot of work.

- The certainty of state aid is going to make it a very different outcome next time.

 

Communications Update – Fred Knight presented logo designs and plans for the updated web site.

Lea reviewed the meeting schedule.

 

            Meeting                                                                       HSBC Presenter and others

            Loker PTO Family Night – Jan. 25, 6:30 pm               Mary Lentz  with Brian Chase

            Claypit Hill PTO Coffee – Feb. 2, 8:00 am                  Lea Anderson with Dianne Bladon

            Happy Hollow PTO – Feb. 13, 6:30 pm                                  Lea with Brian, Karen, Jennifer

            Traditions of Wayland – Feb. 20, 10:30 am                Lea with Sue Pope

WCPA – March 8, 7-8:30 pm in Raytheon Room        Lea with ?

            Council on Aging – March 21, 10 am in Sen. Cen.      Lea with Sue Pope

            WSC Budget Hearing  TBD                                         Lea

           

A regular schedule high school tours on the second Sat. and second Tues. of each month is as follows.

Lea and/or Charlie Ruopp will cover the tours with help from any interested HSBC members.

 

Sat. Feb. 10 at 9:00 am

            Tues. Feb. 13 at 4:00 pm

            Sat. Mar. 10 at 9:00 am

            Tues. Mar. 13 at 4:00 pm

            Tues. Apr. 10 at 4:00 pm

            Sat. Apr. 14 at 9:00 am

 

 

Next meeting – The group will meet next on March 1.

 

Motion – A motion was made by Josh Bekenstein and seconded by Fred Knight to approve the minutes of HSBC meeting #45 held on Thursday, Jan. 18, 2007.

 

Vote – The motion was approved unanimously - 13 in favor, 0 opposed.

 

Comments and questions from observers: There were no comments.

 

Adjournment – The HSBC adjourned at 9:4550 p.m.

 

Observers:  Janet Correia, Anna Sommers, Lisa Valone