High School Building Committee (HSBC) Meeting #25 Minutes
Thursday, September 23, 2004
Wayland Town Building
School Committee Conference Room
Attendees
HSBC members:
Lea Anderson, Josh Bekenstein, Dianne Bladon, Steve Breit, Brian Chase,
Jim Howard, Mary Lentz, Joe Lewin, Cindy Lombardo, Eric Sheffels
Absent: Steve Tise
Ex Officio members: Gary Burton, Fred Knight, Charlie
Ruopp
Turner team:
Dick Amster, Julie Bezoetdebie, Bob Ho
HMFH team:
George Metzger, Doug Sacra
Call to order - Chairman Lea Anderson called the 25th
meeting of the HSBC to order at 7:40 p.m.
Updates on recent meetings ñ Lea reported on the meetings
held with the Finance Committee on 9/13, School Committee on 9/20, and Town
department heads on 9/21.
Finance Committee:
Mary Lentz reviewed the presentation on tax impact. She reported that Cherry Karlson has
signed off on all numbers except the mean and median valuations. Fincom has requested that the HSBC show
tax impact of the high school project without taking debt retirement into
consideration and also show tax impact net of high school debt retirement
only. They have requested a series
of tables showing tax impact for various house assessments. Mary will develop these.
School Committee:
Lea reported that she reviewed the update and tax impact analysis with
the School Committee. The SC asked
the HSBC to discuss the cost and schedule implications of various vote options
and report back. Lea deferred this
discussion to later in the meeting.
Town department heads: Lea reported that Doug Sacra, Julie Bezoetdebie, Joy Buhler
and she attended a meeting of all department heads (planning, building
inspector, water, roads, fire, police, health, surveyor) to review the high
school project. The department
heads noted that they were speaking in their professional roles and not for
their respective committees.
Issues discussed were parking, traffic safety, lighting, public safety
access, wastewater treatment, storage, and town-wide use. They confirmed the wisdom of the HSBCís
decision to move the building from the football field, not only because of
neighborís concerns, but also due to major issues with the flood plain.
HMFH/Turner Report ñ Selected option progress - Doug
Sacra reviewed recent work on selected option 3. He said that the architects have now stepped back to develop
a clearer organization of the buildings.
He showed two schemes that accomplish things differently. Both schemes leave the campus intact
during Phase 1 and the commons, arts, admin/media center buildings intact
during Phase 2. The first scheme
shows the commons on the courtyard, the library on the second floor of the
common building, and the academic buildings joined into one so that there is
one elevator and three staircases.
The second scheme shows a ìMain St.î type of commons, and the library on
the first floor overlooking the courtyard.
Doug said that both new schemes have slightly reduced
square footage and connected academic buildings. He said that back feeding of utilities is now necessary due
to the project being in two phases; cost impact will be developed. George Metzger stated that they are not
looking for a vote on the schemes at this point. There is a lot of work to do to develop a clear organization
of the buildings.
Comments from HSBC members:
- library next to commons is a good thing
- loosen up the ìMain St.î commons
- these designs deal with many issues
that have been raised; great progress in the right direction
- parking lot is not in view of
administration (there is a monitor)
- take a closer look at administration/
kitchen positioning
- commons overlooking the courtyard is
preferable
- receiving should be put somewhere else;
the back of the school has prime views to river
Doug was asked to send a pdf file of the latest design to
Steve Tise.
Project schedule ñ Dick Amster presented an updated
milestone schedule that adds two weeks to the timetable. HMFH needs two more weeks to work
through the details. The schedule
is:
10/7 Selected option progress ñ
parking/benchmarking/ athletics revisited
10/14 General discussion and release to begin
pricing, phasing, & schedule
Present
stop gap project
10/28 Final cost, schedule & phasing of selected
option
11/11 Draft Report
11/18 Final Report & Presentation materials
It was pointed out that the 11/11 meeting date will have
to change due to the holiday.
Cost estimates: Dick said that Hanscomb Faithful and
Gould will prepare another detailed cost estimate. Turner will prepare an independent cost estimate. They will then reconcile the estimates
if there is a discrepancy. The
current Turner estimates are based on gross square footage per building. Their next estimate will be a much more
detailed look at the building components.
George and Dick were asked to share both estimates (after they have been
reviewed and checked) as well as the reconciliation. They were also asked to send out the specification outline
for review prior to the relevant meeting.
Joe Lewin, Eric Sheffels, Brian Chase, and Steve Tise will review the
costs. Dick agreed to send out the
cost information prior to the Oct. 28th meeting.
Dick will send an e-mail describing the deliverables
(such as cost estimate, schedule, outline specifications and drawings) so that
Dianne Bladon can formulate a communications plan for the rest of the project.
Benchmarks:
The group confirmed the importance of benchmark information for both
arts and athletics, two areas where there are variances from other
schools. Doug requested help from
Charlie Ruopp in trying to come up with educational program information from
other schools. The HSBC is looking
for a few notable comparisons, not a major study.
Parking:
Doug said that his plan currently calls for 528 parking spaces. Dan Bennett will take a look at the
data in the next few weeks.
Discussion of vote timing and number of votes ñ Lea
framed the discussion by saying that the HSBC has been asked for objective
feedback on the vote timing and number of votes. The HSBC was directed to stay away from the political
arguments and just focus on the project impact. She asked the group to consider three questions:
1. Is there
a cost or schedule impact to having two votes ñ one for design funds and one
for construction funds?
2. What is
the consequence of delaying the vote beyond January?
3. What is
the earliest date we could be ready for a vote?
In response to 1., Dick said that there would be a cost
to the town to hold two elections and an added effort by the HSBC to conduct
two communications campaigns.
However, he did not see a significant premium to splitting the project,
assuming a timely first and second vote that allow the schedule to remain
intact. Julie reported that the
schedule could be minimally improved if a vote were to occur in late fall,
instead of early winter.
Comments on 1:
- A vote on
design money is the same as a vote on the whole project. Every vote is a referendum on the
entire project.
- People will want to know what they are
going to get for the design money.
We need the final
report of HMFH/Turner before going before boards and the
community whether it is one or two votes.
- Will the town allow the project
to go forward without the final regulations of the SBA?
- Draft regulations will be issued
Jan. 2006. (George does not think
there will be big differences
between current and future regulations.)
- TThere is
a risk that design funds will be approved, but construction funds will not be
approved.
In response to 2., Dick had estimated that delaying the
design start will add escalation costs and inconvenience. For example, instead of moving the
academic classrooms in the summer of 2007, they would have to be moved during a
vacation in 2008. Every year of
escalation adds $1.5M to $2M to the project cost. The schedule is designed to take advantage of summers. Moving into cold seasons for certain
aspects of the project has a cost impact.
Comments on 2:
- There is
so much uncertainty about the project.
We need to give the town information on what the
consequences are of not making a 2007 date for new academic classrooms.
- Pushing
for this schedule is important. By
2007, we will have had modular classrooms for two years and the enrollment will
be pushing 1000. Delaying until
2008 will make the situation worse.
In response to 3., many members of the HSBC were
determined that there be adequate time to inform the public on the final
report. Given the two weeks added
to the schedule tonight, the possibility of a Nov. 30th vote is unrealistic.
Comments on 3:
- The credibility and professional
approach of this committee is at stake if we rush to a vote without the time to inform the community.
- Last year we spent six weeks from the
release of the final report of the HSSC to the vote.
- On Oct. 14 we will know what the design
looks like. We could start
communicating then.
- Mid-January is the best timing for the
project, politics aside.
- The trade-off is between rushing and
not being ready and waiting and escalating cost.
- The very earliest we could be ready if
there is no other option is the week of Dec. 13th.
- Preliminary
information will be good enough.
People need to know about everything leading up to this point, not just
the final numbers.
- The first
time we will see final pricing is Oct. 28. There could be more work to do on costs after the committee
weighs in.
- Whatever
the political judgment of the boards in town, the HSBC has to present an
objective recommendation.
Dick related his experience in Hingham where the
unanimity of the town boards in favor of the recent override was key, in his
mind, to the successful vote.
HSBC consensus was achieved as follows:
1. The HSBC recommends that the full
design-build project be voted on in mid-January 05.
2. If Town
boards do not agree with 1., then the HSBC recommends that design funds be
voted on in mid-January to ensure continuing progress on the project.
3. There is
a reluctance to vote in Nov/Dec on the whole project or design funds because
there will not be adequate time for communication. If there is no other option, then the earliest possible date
the HSBC could be ready for a vote is the week of Dec. 13.
There was a strong consensus that January is the best
time to have the vote from the perspective of giving the committee an adequate
amount of time to disseminate information.
There were conflicting points of view on whether the HSBC
would be ready for a vote on the whole project or even the design funds in
December. Some expressed the sense
that it would be easier to pass design funds, not the entire project, if we are
rushed to vote in December. Others
felt that there was no difference between voting on the entire project or
design funds. Others still felt
that any vote in December is too early and that there is a real risk of failure
because the communication will not be adequate.
Waste Water Treatment Plant ñ Gary Burton reported that
he had received a request to float the idea of considering more users,
including Happy Hollow School and neighborhood houses, in the design of the
WWTP as a way to share costs. He
said that there is some town owned land near the town wells that might be a
possible location. Discussion
included the following:
- WWTPs like to be used.
- Our system is being designed with the
ability to shut down parts of it in the summer.
- The town land is close to the wells, an
area we are trying to avoid.
- Some
neighborhoods have looked at the possibility of building a shared system. This neighborhood could do it in the
future.
- Keep them separate at this point.
Design Costs ñ Dick Amster presented an estimate of pre-construction
design costs through bid of about $4M.
Dick was asked to be specific about any items he knows about and to
leave the contingency for unexpected expenses. It was recommended that we err on the side of too much and
not too little because falling short on a design budget would have serious
consequences. Not spending the
whole budget is better than not being able to hire a consultant for a specific
design issue. Doug estimated that
costs for consultants not included (auditorium, gym, lighting, day lighting,
and energy modeling) add up to about $126,000 more.
Dick will itemize and show details.
Minutes
Upon a motion duly made (Joe Lewin) and seconded (Cindy
Lombardo) the Committee voted unanimously (10-0) to approve the minutes of HSBC
meeting #24 on September 9, 2004.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:55 p.m.
Observers: Pat Abramson, Mike Crismond, Mark Santangelo,
Linda Segal, Michael Short, Richard Turner
Comments and questions from observers:
Comment: The location of the new practice field concerns
the neighbors because of the potential for lights and noise.
(Doug pointed out that the field is not a regulation size
and probably would never be lit.)
Comment: The Board of Selectmen has requested that all
the tapes of the HSBC meetings and forums will be saved.
Question:
Will there be a door to the outside in the new cable studio? Answer: yes
The next regular meeting of the HSBC is scheduled for
Thursday, Oct. 7 at 7:30 p.m. in the School Committee Conference Room in the
Town Building.