High School Building Committee (HSBC) Meeting #23 Minutes
Thursday, August 19, 2004
Wayland Town Building
School Committee Conference Room
Attendees
HSBC members:
Lea Anderson, Dianne Bladon, Josh Bekenstein, Steve Breit, Brian Chase,
Jim Howard, Mary Lentz, Eric Sheffels
Absent: Joe
Lewin, Cindy Lombardo, Steve Tise
Ex Officio members: Gary Burton, Fred Knight
Turner team:
Dick Amster, Julie Bezoetdebie, Bob Ho
HMFH team:
Doug Sacra
Call to order - Chairman Lea Anderson called the 23rd
meeting of the HSBC to order at 7:40 p.m.
HMFH/Turner Report
Waste Water Treatment ñ Doug Sacra presented information
on requirements for a waste water treatment plant (WWTP). A WWTP is required at WHS for three
reasons.
1. Total
sewage produced per day (code is15 gallons X 1100 students or16,500 gallons) is
greater than the minimum (10,000 gallons) which is the threshold for a
WWTP. WHS currently uses 11.5
gallons per day per student. Doug
thinks that with new water conservation techniques, this number could be
reduced to about 7 gallons per day.
2. Under
Title V, any time a ìsubstantial alterationî of a facility is made, a building
permit is required, under which the Board of Health has the ability to review
if sewage treatment systems require upgrading. The Board of Health has already said a WWTP will be
necessary.
3. The
current project is a major construction project within Zone 2 of two Wayland
drinking water wells.
Doug reviewed a summary of applicable regulations and
guidelines of the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) for the
application process and permit procedures. The total timeline for design and permitting is 1 to 1.5 years
presuming only standard delays and obstacles. Timeline for construction is 9 months. Dick Amster reported that temporary
pumping of sewage would be necessary during construction as part of the old
system is taken off line. Julie
Bezoetdebie is studying the issue and projects that it would cost $200,000 per
year to pump everything away daily.
She is looking at other ways to shorten time of pumping. More work will be done on this issue
over the next month and reported to the HSBC in September. On September 15, HMFH and Turner will
attend the meeting of Wayland land use department heads. A DEP representative will attend.
Reimbursable Project ñ Doug presented an updated
calculation of SBA reimbursement.
1100 students X 155 sq. ft. per student = 170,500 sq.
ft. Additional allowable square
feet for technology, community use, and special needs is 20% or 34,100 for a
total of 204,600 sq. ft. SBA
approved escalation to FY2005 is 7.3%.
Estimated escalation for 2006 and 2007 is 4% each year. The escalated cost per square foot for
a 2007 project is $227.47 resulting in an allowable project of
$46,540,185. The minimum
reimbursement of 40% results in an estimated state contribution of $18,616,074. The current Scheme 3 project
budget of $55,493,557 minus the state portion results in an estimated cost to
Wayland of $36,877,483. Scheme 3
total square feet is 232,459. Sq.
ft. per student is 211 and average $/sq. ft. is $239.
Parking ñ Doug reviewed current parking at WHS and
projections for future parking requirements. There are currently 379 parking spaces. He led the group through logical
assumptions for daytime and nighttime use. Daytime spaces required are around 500. He projected spaces needed for
assembly, i.e. nighttime events in auditorium and gym to be around 670 spaces
assuming worst case overlap of events.
Doug will work with the high school administrators to understand peak
usage in an effort to reduce the total number of spaces necessary.
The HSBC made the following suggestions:
-
determine requirements of zoning
-
plan for creative scheduling of events to minimize parking
-
look at minimizing impervious surfaces for overflow, infrequently used spaces
-
a special permit is easier than a variance
- make a logical proposal: we are designing a high
school, this is what the code requires us to do, these are the calculations pursuant to the code
Revisiting the Program ñ Dick Amster reported that HMFH
and Turner are looking at various ways of fine-tuning the project to reduce
square feet. A reduction of 5,000
sq. ft. has already been incorporated.
Dick is looking for a total of 8,000 sq. ft. The next step is to meet with Charlie Ruopp and Gary Burton
to see where more changes can be made.
Is there opportunity in fine arts and athletics to reduce size? Comments from HSBC members were:
- do not make the academic classrooms any smaller; they
are first priority and have already been reduced
-
look again at benchmark data, especially in athletics
-
we are charged with satisfying the program; do not hack away at it
-
look for a better gym design or fewer seats in the auditorium
-
understand the reimbursable project and explain the areas that are above it
-
are we expanding what we have today in fine arts and athletics?
-
we have spaces that are inadequate for the program; want the program to
flourish
-
is the space as designed addressing the program?
Minimum Cost Project ñ Dick proposed that the ìminimum
cost projectî is enrollment driven, code compliant, and includes system replacements
that will last at least ten years.
This project will add classroom space for additional enrollment, but not
expand any existing classroom sizes.
It will bring all buildings up to code for both safety and handicap
accessibility. It will replace
systems that are likely to fail in the next ten years. The group discussed other names for
this project, such as ìshort-sighted projectî and ìstop-gap projectî. It will be important to understand what
additional money will have to be spent in the next 40 years if a stop-gap
project is done. The HSBC felt
that it is important to do this exercise because the question has been asked
numerous times. It was suggested
that starting with Option 1 and working backwards might be the best
approach. The question of SBA
reimbursement of a stop-gap project will also have to be answered since choices
such as reduced classroom size have implications for reimbursement.
Budget ñ Dick reviewed revised Option 3. There is a savings for not moving the
football field, additional costs for added escalation and phasing modulars, and
lower cost for contingency resulting in a bottom line of $55,060,580 compared
to the original Option 3 budget of $55,493,557.
Dick then addressed the request for consideration of
Option 3 if the Field House were demolished and the athletic program were
satisfied with new construction.
32,000 square feet of new construction would be needed in addition to
the gym which is 12,000 sq. ft.
The total cost of this option would be $57,853,441. The group advised Dick to spend no more
energy on this scenario due to its increased cost.
Option 3 update ñ Doug showed the group other ideas for
siting of buildings that takes advantage of north/south orientation for better
daylighting. One concept showed
two buildings for academic classrooms.
It was suggested by HSBC members that we should not lose sight of the
constraints that led to selection of Option 3. Efficiency of one building is one example. Doug reminded the group that the design
has not yet begun. HMFH and Turner
have been looking at ways of doing the construction in one phase to shorten the
time and cost. A discussion about
maintaining the campus elicited different points of view. Some felt that spending extra money to
have multiple buildings was not supportable. Dr. Burton reminded the group of the value of the campus to
students. Other comments were:
-
sacrifice daylight orientation in common areas
-
maximize amount of construction that does not impinge on existing buildings
-
do not lose sight of how we got to Option 3
-
look at a project that reduces costs
-
satisfy educational program, but push back on architectural elements that raise
cost
- do not change parameters that drive up costs or change
assumptions that led to new building
-
analyze changes
Update on financial analysis ñ Mary Lentz reviewed
assumptions that she and Josh are using to develop a tax impact analysis. The following assumptions were
presented:
-
qualifying project is $46M
-
state funding rate is 40% to 45%
-
short term financing (interest only) period is 2 to 5 years
-
long term financing (interest and principal payments) is 25 to 30 years
-
short term interest rate is 1.5% to 3%
-
long term interest rate is 4% to 5%
The HSBC has been advised to wait until town boards have
had a chance to look at the assumptions and analysis that is taking place
before putting tax impact numbers out.
There will be progress on this in September. Until then, the HSBC will consider the assumptions.
Planning for community forum ñ Dianne Bladon reviewed the
forum agenda for Thursday, Aug. 26.
A tour will be offered at 6:30 p.m. followed by the forum at 7:30 p.m.
in the Little Theater.
Schedule update ñ Dick reviewed the revised schedule that
calls for release to begin pricing on Sept. 30 and final costs to be presented
on Oct. 14. Two weeks have been
added to the schedule resulting in presentation materials to be ready Nov.
18. It was suggested that a
meeting be added to the schedule on Sept. 9, possibly to replace the Sept. 16
meeting, so that there is not such a long stretch between meetings.
Minutes
Upon a motion duly made (Mary Lentz) and seconded (Steve
Breit) the Committee voted unanimously (7-0) to approve the minutes of HSBC
meeting #22 on August 5, 2004.
(Note: Josh Bekenstein left before the vote, so there were 7 HSBC
members present for the vote.)
The meeting was adjourned at 10:35 p.m.
Observers: John Hilliard, Anette Lewis, Jerry Melnick,
Linda Segal, Kathy Siracusa, Michael Short, Richard Turner
Comments and questions from observers:
Comment: Design facility for easy add-on in future
Comment: Do not use 10 years for roofs when looking at
ìminimum projectî
Question:
How do I find copy room sizes?
Answer: Look for Educational Program Specification at Library or on
website.
Comment: Donít take word of town department head on
planning parking for 85% of the time.
Talk to boards. Regarding
the meeting on Sept. 15, department heads do not speak for boards.
Comment: Update utility use analysis with correct
information. (Advised to talk
directly to Doug.)
Comment: Do not delay putting tax impact data out. Need to get public used to
numbers. Boards should push for
range of costs.
The next regular meeting of the HSBC is scheduled for
Thursday, Sept. 9 at 7:30 p.m. in the School Committee Conference Room in the
Town Building.
A community forum will be held on Thursday, Aug. 26 at
Wayland High School ñ tour at 6:30 p.m., forum at 7:30 p.m. in the Little
Theater.